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dewi9
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Yet another newbie Reply with quote

Well, here I am, joining another forum in the hope of finding answers to problems I keep lumbering myself with.
After downloading seven different flavours of Linux, making cd's and installing them on my old IBM laptop I still have no sound ... so looking for answers.
It seems like I have to load up a sound driver, as a .rpm or .tgz or summat, then get my system to see it.
First, where do I find the driver for a cs423x sound chip? Then, what do I do with it? I seem to need alsa sound program with it, then run alsaconf - but how? and when? and what else do I do?
It sems even worse than CP/M days, when everything was for Intel sbc - is it really that bad?
I'll sleep on it and come back tomorrow.
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dewi9
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: current setup Reply with quote

I have currently got 2 ibm laptops to try, easy swop of hdd - on tray, 1 screw - models are 770/770E. numbers are 9548 and 9549, both intel pII-MMC1/266mHz. Both have 192mb ram + cd. Screens are 14 inch, 1024x768 svga.
Have tried - ubuntu, load in about 2 hrs, slick interface, nice visuals, open office very slow on loading and doing anything - about 4mins start, 30 secs response time when typing !!
Redhat and suse8 both loaded ok, no soundcard detected.
Debian took about 2 hours to load up, then got $ prompt - no ideas on installing desktop, so gave up. still no sound detected.
Why is the install of linux so s-l-o-w , 2 to 3 hours wait ???
Knoppix & Gentoo I seem to recall were 'live' cd's and did not install themselves, but did give me an idea about what linux could be like.
Currently installed Mandrake v9.2, with default kde desktop. Seems to be quite easy to use. like access to hardware wizard, but still does not find me soundcard. Most linux installs found my video driver ok, cyber9237 or something like that. Two worked out the fact that it would run at 1024x768, others I had to tell it after install.
I have loaded alsa bits, and mpg123 (for mp3's) but am still no wiser regarding getting software to access my soundcard chip (crystal cs423x) nor what to do when I find it and have it on cd ready to install.
How does the system know that the program I want to install is on cd? Most linux systems sem to assume any updates will be via the www - so that is the default location for new files (or so it seems to me). I have no access at present, as I have not got my ethernet pcmcia card installed, nor network drivers, and internal modem is mwave - which appears to be another questionable resource regarding software to run it.
I have seen info on installing soundcard drivers on the ibm 770, but the authors really flash through the details and do not give instructions as a step by step 'noddy' guide (ie assume I know nothing, and cannot get you to ask any questions).
So that is where I am now. I do have Debian on 4xdvd, which is supposed to include *everything* including source codes (which look like they are written in Greek to me). So I should have access to any drivers etc that I need, IF I can find them .... and put them on cd.
Over to you - what is my next step ??
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koen
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of questions -- let's try answering a few.
Debian is what I know best, so if you want to stick to Mandrake, you'll have to translate some if the following (ot a Mandrake user should step in Smile )

Linux can be quite slow top install - most often because there's really a lot to install if you don't make some selections : you may end up with not only an operating system, but also 5 mail programs, 6 web browsers, a complete office suite and an additional 3 or 4 word processors, an extra spreadsheet application, 15 text editors, and so on. Not mentioning mail servers, database servers and the like.
Usually you are asked if you want all that during the setup, but when you're new, you don't always understand the questions, so you say 'yes' to everything. You'll learn ...
On the other hand ... Ubuntu does make some selections for you. Maybe it's just slow because it was devellopped years after your laptops and expects a bit more power (CPU, RAM ... )

Anyway,
I had a quick look around on the web (Google - they know everything !) and apparently Debian has e module (a driver) for crystal cs423x sound chips - so Ubuntu must have it too, and it was later ported to RedHat as well. changes are that oither distriibutions did the same.

Assuming your soundcard is detected automatically by the system, you should execute the following commands to install and configure it :
[code:1]
apt-get install alsaconf
alsaconf
[/code:1]

If it is not autodetected, you'll have to manually install the modules, so try running alsaconf first, before we go in ot that.

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How does the system know that the program I want to install is on cd? [/quote]
Debian keeps a list of 'sources' where you want to install from - can be from CD's, www, etc. Probably other distro's have something similar. the web is often preferred because open source software tends to evolve quickly : by the time you've made a CD, there's already a newer version on the web Smile But you should be able to use CD's / DVD's ...

So you may want to get that ethernet card working first Smile Shouldn't be too hard ...
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