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Old Toshiba satellite pro laptop w/ Windows 95 OS

 
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chuckster
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Old Toshiba satellite pro laptop w/ Windows 95 OS Reply with quote

I have the subject computer with a 75 MHZ CPU, 24M RAM and a 750MEG hard drive. It has an external CDROM.

I'd like to get some opinions on reloading it with Linux, adding a PCMCIA wireless card and using it to surf the internet via my 11B/G wireless router in my home.

Does this seem feasible?

Thanks for your feedback.
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chuckster
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tripwire,

Thanks for your input.

I guess this project is a stretch.

The CPU is a Pentium 3.

It ran ok with the Explorer and Netscape browser version of it's heyday.

I didn't consider that RAM would be a problem.

I believe it's maxed out on RAM at 24 Meg.

Windows 95 doesn't support wireless. That's why I was looking at Linux.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with :[quote]I'd give it a shot just to see if I could do it.[/quote] ... or to see if Linux can make something usefull out of that old laptop.
I think it probably could.

text mode only should work fine but in this day and age it's not what you want : MS DOS + some tcpip software would work too but noone's interested (except possibly out of curiosity / for educational purposes)

I would most definitely stay away from 'complete' desktops such as KDE and Gnome : most likely the 24 MB RAM can not handle that.
Just leave out the KDE : There's a good change that X windows will run on the laptop. Choose a lightweight window manager to go with it - fvwm is reputedly one of the lightiest.
(Trip, from the link to oreilly that you quoted : [quote] Although X operates well with 16 MB of RAM, you can open more windows and switch between them more quickly if you have additional memory.[/quote])
I had a quick look with google, but couldn't find any more accurate sys requirements for x-windows ...

So, my guess : linux, x-windows + a few applications (browser, mail, ...) will work - although not as fluent as we've come accustomed to on our machines with GHz CPU's and Gbytes RAM.
If i had a laptop like that lying around, I'd give it a go - so i don't think it's that much of a strectch.

One more hurdle (in addition to finding support/drivers for chipsets : )
You say the laptop has an [b]external [/b] CD-ROM drive. Can you boot from a CD with that ?
If not, you'll have to prepare boot disks. Floppies, that is.
Tried it a couple of times with Debian - works fine but, again, feels primitive once you got used to the 'insert CD and power up' method, and you do have to think every now and then, not just click 'next'.
(write-up :
[url]http://users.pandora.be/mydotcom/howto/lanconnect/router/instlin.htm[/url])

Some basics about 'GUI' Linux without KDE/Gnome :
http://users.pandora.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/multimedia.htm

Have fun,
koen.

not that it matters, but is it really a Pentium III CPU ? you're description sounds like a mid-90's Pentium ("pentium 1") machine to me ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koen,

I couldn't verify what the CPU is except it's a Pentium. It must be a "I" like you say.

I'll have to research most of your comments since I know nothing about Linux or the apps you refer to.

I was first going to try Ubuntu Linux. I made an install CD from PCWorld magazine's website.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fine.
do read that 'minimal GUI' page i mentioned and see if any of it makes sense, or just try and see how it goes.

I guess you can use your Ubuntu CD, but to do a minimal install (base system only, no Gome Desktop, ...) you may have to supply a parameter when starting the installer otherwise it may just start a default setup with too much graphical stuff for the 24 MB RAM you have.
I have no experience with Ubunto so I can't help you there.
(Anyone else ? )
[url]http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html[/url] looks good too.

So, have a go at that first, and if there are problems, I'm sure you'll be back Smile

kn
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